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		<title>By: A Changing of the Guard &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</title>
		<link>http://abovethecrowd.com/2008/06/30/bleak-vc-quarter-why/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>A Changing of the Guard &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 06:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] said that no one wants to run a public company; the other reported that his hand shook every time he had to sign off on a public company&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s Easier to Run a Mile If You&#8217;re Ready for a Marathon &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</title>
		<link>http://abovethecrowd.com/2008/06/30/bleak-vc-quarter-why/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s Easier to Run a Mile If You&#8217;re Ready for a Marathon &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] time I sign a 10K or 10Q, my hand shakes a little.&#8221; Bill Gurley wrote that &#8220;no one wants to manage a public company.&#8221; Both acknowledged that IPOs were still a possible outcome, but not one on which most [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] time I sign a 10K or 10Q, my hand shakes a little.&#8221; Bill Gurley wrote that &#8220;no one wants to manage a public company.&#8221; Both acknowledged that IPOs were still a possible outcome, but not one on which most [...]</p>
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		<title>By: In Defense of Sarbanes-Oxley &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</title>
		<link>http://abovethecrowd.com/2008/06/30/bleak-vc-quarter-why/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>In Defense of Sarbanes-Oxley &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 04:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] bringing independence and accountability to financial disclosures has become the chief villain. Bill Gurley and Fred Wilson were some of the first, in the summer 2008, to complain of Sarbanes-Oxley. But [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bringing independence and accountability to financial disclosures has become the chief villain. Bill Gurley and Fred Wilson were some of the first, in the summer 2008, to complain of Sarbanes-Oxley. But [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Honey, I Shrunk the Startups! (Guide for Scoring TechCrunch 50 at Home) &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</title>
		<link>http://abovethecrowd.com/2008/06/30/bleak-vc-quarter-why/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Honey, I Shrunk the Startups! (Guide for Scoring TechCrunch 50 at Home) &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Gurley says an IPO isn&#8217;t worth the Sarbanes-Oxley headaches. Others are just waiting for the market to tick up. But if those were the real problems, we’d see [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gurley says an IPO isn&#8217;t worth the Sarbanes-Oxley headaches. Others are just waiting for the market to tick up. But if those were the real problems, we’d see [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Graves</title>
		<link>http://abovethecrowd.com/2008/06/30/bleak-vc-quarter-why/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love this challenge of the NYT. The optimist in me definitely is rooting for your theory over his! Great post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this challenge of the NYT. The optimist in me definitely is rooting for your theory over his! Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://abovethecrowd.com/2008/06/30/bleak-vc-quarter-why/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even if its expected to be a weak VC quarter, there is no need for entrepreneurs to panic. There are ways to self-finance a company using some creative tactics. Big huge advertising budgets and customer support centers are absolutely not needed anymore with the advent of social media in the past 4 years. See here... www.readtheanswer.com/index.php?RTA=web2]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if its expected to be a weak VC quarter, there is no need for entrepreneurs to panic. There are ways to self-finance a company using some creative tactics. Big huge advertising budgets and customer support centers are absolutely not needed anymore with the advent of social media in the past 4 years. See here&#8230; <a href="http://www.readtheanswer.com/index.php?RTA=web2" rel="nofollow">http://www.readtheanswer.com/index.php?RTA=web2</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark MacLeod</title>
		<link>http://abovethecrowd.com/2008/06/30/bleak-vc-quarter-why/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark MacLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,

I agree that there is a supply issue. I have been a CFO for 4 VC-backed companies (on my 5th now). Private is good. I dealt with SOX compliance while integrating my 3rd startup into its acquirer. What a nightmare!

The nightmare notwithstanding, I think we risk over analyzing this. It&#039;s one quarter. The fundamentals of both early stage investing and late stage exiting are not changed. Despite the credit crunch, i-bank writedowns, recession threat, etc. It&#039;s a timing issue and not a fundamental change.

Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>I agree that there is a supply issue. I have been a CFO for 4 VC-backed companies (on my 5th now). Private is good. I dealt with SOX compliance while integrating my 3rd startup into its acquirer. What a nightmare!</p>
<p>The nightmare notwithstanding, I think we risk over analyzing this. It&#8217;s one quarter. The fundamentals of both early stage investing and late stage exiting are not changed. Despite the credit crunch, i-bank writedowns, recession threat, etc. It&#8217;s a timing issue and not a fundamental change.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Aruni Gunasegaram</title>
		<link>http://abovethecrowd.com/2008/06/30/bleak-vc-quarter-why/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Aruni Gunasegaram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill - Saw you mentioned on Fred Wilson&#039;s blog, which I read often. Not sure if you remember me, but you were a judge on a MOOT Corp panel for my first venture, Isochron Data Corp., back in 1998 here at UT Austin.

I&#039;ve done a few things since then (feel free to check out the About page on my blog) the most important being having two kids!

I just joined ATI a few weeks ago to help them with their Operations and Finance.

Next time you are in Austin, let me know and if you have time, I&#039;d love to meet up.

With regards to this post, I agree with it being supply issue and entrepreneurs and directors alike not wanting to manage a public company.  What would be interesting is to examine the social reasons behind that in addition to Sarbanes Oxley, etc.

Aruni]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211; Saw you mentioned on Fred Wilson&#8217;s blog, which I read often. Not sure if you remember me, but you were a judge on a MOOT Corp panel for my first venture, Isochron Data Corp., back in 1998 here at UT Austin.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done a few things since then (feel free to check out the About page on my blog) the most important being having two kids!</p>
<p>I just joined ATI a few weeks ago to help them with their Operations and Finance.</p>
<p>Next time you are in Austin, let me know and if you have time, I&#8217;d love to meet up.</p>
<p>With regards to this post, I agree with it being supply issue and entrepreneurs and directors alike not wanting to manage a public company.  What would be interesting is to examine the social reasons behind that in addition to Sarbanes Oxley, etc.</p>
<p>Aruni</p>
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		<title>By: Will the Last High-Tech IPO Please Turn out the Lights? &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</title>
		<link>http://abovethecrowd.com/2008/06/30/bleak-vc-quarter-why/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Will the Last High-Tech IPO Please Turn out the Lights? &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of prominent venture capitalists, including Fred Wilson and now Bill Gurley, are writing this week about the dearth of IPOs first reported by Matt Richtel in the New York [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Spencer Rascoff</title>
		<link>http://abovethecrowd.com/2008/06/30/bleak-vc-quarter-why/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Rascoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill,

Welcome back. 

I completely agree. It&#039;s a supply problem not a demand problem. Obviously the buyside still has strong demand for successful pre-IPO companies -- look at how many mutual funds and hedge funds are leading late stage private rounds. Two of Zillow&#039;s VCs fall into this category -- PAR Capital and Legg Mason.

Others who have argued that it&#039;s a supply problem frequently point to SarBox or RegFD. And clearly the more onerous regulatory environment has complicated things and made it more challenging to run a public company. But there are other challenges also -- the grind of hitting quarterly numbers under a microscope, and of course activist hedge funds which are increasingly targeting tech companies in ways that they never used to -- witness YHOO and CNET.

Has anyone seen data on total VC$ raised per company before liquidity? I&#039;m wondering whether it&#039;s really true that web2.0 requires less capital. (That&#039;s obviously the lore, but is it actually the case?) If so, then the IPO drought is less of a problem because employees and VCs can still earn healthy returns through M&amp;A exits (which typically happen earlier and at lower prices).

I agree with Bryan&#039;s comment -- &quot;it seems most web entrepreneurs&#039; dream today is to sell to Google for $100M, not IPO at $1B&quot;. That&#039;s spot on. But it presupposes a small amount raised in order for the $100M sale to be a successful exit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Welcome back. </p>
<p>I completely agree. It&#8217;s a supply problem not a demand problem. Obviously the buyside still has strong demand for successful pre-IPO companies &#8212; look at how many mutual funds and hedge funds are leading late stage private rounds. Two of Zillow&#8217;s VCs fall into this category &#8212; PAR Capital and Legg Mason.</p>
<p>Others who have argued that it&#8217;s a supply problem frequently point to SarBox or RegFD. And clearly the more onerous regulatory environment has complicated things and made it more challenging to run a public company. But there are other challenges also &#8212; the grind of hitting quarterly numbers under a microscope, and of course activist hedge funds which are increasingly targeting tech companies in ways that they never used to &#8212; witness YHOO and CNET.</p>
<p>Has anyone seen data on total VC$ raised per company before liquidity? I&#8217;m wondering whether it&#8217;s really true that web2.0 requires less capital. (That&#8217;s obviously the lore, but is it actually the case?) If so, then the IPO drought is less of a problem because employees and VCs can still earn healthy returns through M&amp;A exits (which typically happen earlier and at lower prices).</p>
<p>I agree with Bryan&#8217;s comment &#8212; &#8220;it seems most web entrepreneurs&#8217; dream today is to sell to Google for $100M, not IPO at $1B&#8221;. That&#8217;s spot on. But it presupposes a small amount raised in order for the $100M sale to be a successful exit.</p>
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